FULL: Did We Find New Zealand's Oldest Belieber?

We spoke to a young belieber earlier this week and we wanted to find another belieber, but someone who was above the general age demographic of your traditional JB fan. And I think we found them! Jono also played some very disturbing audio this morning of a couple working out. But without the visuals of them working out, it sounded like a veeeery different activity. We also caught up with Dr Dougal Sutherland who is a psychologist, and he gave some really good tips on how to get through this Christmas if the vaccine debate is causing tension within the family. All that and more on today's podcast!