The Fear of Being Bad at Things| Matty & PJ's Off Track
- Publish date
- Tuesday, 9 Jun 2026, 6:51PM
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We chat about perfectionism, early failures, and why not being instantly good can stop us from trying new things. Plus, If we were to pivot and have another career, what would we choose?
Matty McLean and PJ Harding are New Zealand’s warmest, most unpredictable drive show - perfect for the commute, the school run or whenever you need something to laugh about on the way home!
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